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I have got to move from this state.

There are no words to describe how much I hate Jeb Bush. No words. Just boiling rage. I look at him and try not to vomit.

Jeb Bush is now trying to take CUSTODY of Terri Schaivo in an attempt to win favor with the religous right and make himself look like some kind of god. I do not believe for one minute that Jeb actually truly cares what happens to Terri. I do not believe that W cares about Terri as a person. They only want to use her situation for their own political and personal power trips.

It makes me sick.

Once again we have a doctor who claims after watching video, observing Terri and reading medical charts BUT NOT EXAMINING HER say that she's not in a persistive vegetative state. THat's not good medicine. It's insane. It's politics.

I'm truly disgusted and frightened that politicians can just intervene on such personal matters.

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He didn't examine her because Michael would not give permission to examine her.

And, this custody thing is not a new, last minute deal. It has been brewing for three weeks.

He hasn't been big on giving permission to anyone to examine her. What little evidence there is of Terri's mental capacity is pretty old.

Jeb tried to have DCF take Terri away before and it didn't work. I'm not sure why he thought it would work now.

I don't think the govenor should be trying to do things like this.

Fifteen years in a coma... She's not going anywhere, she's not getting better. She's just not... Let's let her doctors, who deal with her, tell us what her condition is. And, hey here's something new, why not believe them?

She's not in a coma. Even the medical experts on Michael Schiavo's side are not contending that she is. What her parents having been trying to say is at issue is if she is in a persistent vegetative state. 3 doctors (who have examined her) say yes, 2 (who have examined her) say no.

Ah, I stand corrected.

Fifteen years in either a)a persistent vegetative state or b) whatever it is the other 2 doctors say she is in (I'll put my vote in for pining for the fjords); does anyone think she's getting better?

It highly unlikely - though the odds of a limited recovery are a little bit better if she stays alive than they are if she's dead. Whether or not she is going to get better isn't really the point. Her parents find value in her the way she is. They don't like watching her starve to death. It's painful. She may not visibly react to pain or understand what is causing pain, but we don't really know that she can't feel it.

She has no cerebral cortex.

Feeling or not, there's no one home.

Then why is such a big deal being made about how relaxing and euphorious it is to be starved to death? If nodoby's home, that particular gem is totally irrelevant.

I understood that her cerebral cortex had liquified.

At any rate - yeah, active euthanesia is certainly more humane than passive, but that's even less likely to be allowed.

It depends on who you talk to. There are those people who claim she can be given therapy and one person who said she mouthed the words "I want to live" when the feeding tube was removed. THis is a bunch of BS.

Terri's cerebal cortex is GONE. Gone. If she could communicate at even the most basic level the hospice she was at would know about it. The officials at the hospice would have some record of it and they would have testified at the initial hearing and any hearing after that.

There are some quacks out there saying that with proper therapy Terri could talk, move, etc. But Terri has had extensive therapy. It was only after years of trying therapy -- including going to California for treatment -- that Michael Schiavo went through the proper legal channels to have Terri's feedig tube removed. The propler legal channels meant going to the court and there was a hearing where a judge determined that Terri would not want to be kept alive this way.

Michael didn't just waltz into the hospice one day and say "take out the feeding tube" he followed the proper legal channels.

That was 15 years ago. For the past 15 years Terri's parents have been appealing this process and filing new motions and every time the courts have upheld the original ruling.

The courts have also found that the allegations of spousal abuse against Michael Schiavo were baseless.

Terri's parents (and others) say that Michael abused Terri (and/or tried to kill her) and that's how her caridac arrest happened. However, Michael filed an medical malpractice suit against doctors for not properly diagnosising his wife with an eating disorder which led to her cardiac arrest. Michael Schiavo won that case -- the courts decided that yes, she had an eating disorder and it was mis diagnosised. Michael won $1 million dollars, the majority of which has gone to pay for her care.

Yes, I had heard about all of this. Which is why it continues to baffle me that people are siding against him on this.

1) it is nobody's business but his

2) assuming it is her parents' business (which court case after court case had denied), their hope is certainly false, and not based in reality.

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