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posted by [personal profile] askye at 01:54am on 18/06/2010
I made the argument, and I truly believe it -- that you can't truly be for the equality of one group unless you are for the equality of all.

But evidentially since Martin Luther King Jr was sexist it's okay for women to be pro women's rights. Except for lesbians and bisexual women. And transwomen.

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posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 02:01am on 18/06/2010
Bullshit.
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posted by [personal profile] askye at 02:27am on 18/06/2010
It seems I got tangled up in the comments and started addressing two different people.

But there's still the claim that feminism doesn't include civil rights, it's just about fighthing sexism, which I don't believe.

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posted by [personal profile] twistedchick at 02:35am on 18/06/2010
Fighting sexism *is* about civil rights, because sexism prevents women from being treated as complete human beings with equal rights under the law, i.e., men. It has been about civil rights since long before the Seneca Falls Convention called for the vote for women, since Abigail Adams told John Adams to 'remember the ladies' in his legal and constitutional deliberations, and John thought it was cute instead of taking her seriously. Equal rights for women, equal protection under the law, equal civil liberties -- this is what feminism is about. Take any of this away and what is left is no longer feminism.
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