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posted by [personal profile] askye at 07:47am on 14/06/2008
I haven't written much about the election or the issues surrounding it but I feel up to it right now.

I'm not surprised Clinton is not the Presidential candidate. Not one bit. I'm not suprised at the way she was treated by the media and I'm not surprised at the smear campaigns against her.

I never thought that Clinton was a viable candidate for President.  I'm not saying that I think she would have been a bad President, because I don't. But there are too many people in this country who hate the Clintons and hate her especially. I personally know people who think she is evil incarnate.  They believe all kinds of wild stories about her,   They hate her because she's Bill Clinton's wife, they hate her because of who she is.  They hate her because they think she ran the White house and not Clinton, they hate her because they think she's a theif and a liar, and of course they hate her because she's an educated woman.

I'm not talking about random nutjob people when I say I know people. I'm talking about my relatives. I'm refering to pretty much every Souther Baptist I know. There is no way, NO WAY, that the Souther BAptrist Convention would not start an all out war if  Clinton won the nomination. They think she'd want all girls to turn into lesibans (like her), and force every woman to have an abortion, and  make laws to take away all rights of men, and on and on and on.

It's not rational at all but ti's there. There is no way the SBC is going to sit back and just watch a woman become president (they really don't want women to teach too many boys) but to have to watch THAT Woman? Not without the worst most disgusting most horrendous smear campaign the United States has ever seen.

I've already read news articles regarding Evangelicals that say they are caught between voting for a liberal candidate (meaing McCain) and a really liberal candidate. So they'll hold their nose and vote for McCain. I've heard Republicans who have said they don't want to vote for McCain, and they'd be willing to vote for Obama, but there's no way in hell they could make themselves vote for Clinton.  Maybe I'm being to cynical and too harsh but I remember what it was like when Clinton was President, I know how many times I had to walk away from relatives because of the horrible things they were saying.

It sucks It makes me mad that this is how it is but that's how it is.

I looked on Bill Clinton's presidency as a wonderful time, see him as a good leader. But too many people think of those yeas as hellish torment they had to endure.

I keep thinking I should be more outraged, but honest to God, I never thought Clinton would get as far as she did. Never. So she defied my expectations. And also I'd pretty much resigned myself to voting party lines rather than voting for the candidate of my choice (that would be Edwards).

I want a woman to be president, I know that there will be other women who run for President and I'm confident that in my life time I'll see a female president.  (Unless I die suddenly).
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posted by [identity profile] vwbug.livejournal.com at 01:00pm on 14/06/2008
I completely agree with pretty much everything you said here. I never saw Clinton as a viable candidate. She's just too polarizing, in my opinion. And I think for a lot of people it has a lot more to do with who she is rather than the fact she's a woman. I know people will disagree with that, but I also know many people in that world that you're talking about...and it's all about HER, not the fact that she's a woman.
 
posted by [identity profile] debetesse.livejournal.com at 01:30pm on 14/06/2008
Your experience reflects mine.

And, really, that was why I never seriously considered voting for her in the Primary. She's a terribly divisive figure.
 
posted by [identity profile] sophiabrooks.livejournal.com at 02:06pm on 14/06/2008
me three, actually, and I am from New York State! I also liked Edwards the best because he seemed to be the only candidate thinking seriously about the "working class" and poor.
 
posted by [identity profile] trudybooth.livejournal.com at 05:29pm on 14/06/2008
I was so sad when we lost Edwards for that very reason.

I voted for Obama over Clinton in the primary because of everything askye said -- but then I fell in love with him. All I keep thinking is "if he is who he says he is..."

And at the risk of getting sappy as shit, on June 6 when the paper was stuffed with "Bobby Kennedy was killed 40 years ago today" and "Barack Obama is going to be the nominee" I kept tearing up. The resemblances between them have struck me for a long time and the timing just makes it all feel a little bit like destiny. After 40 years maybe the country gets back on track.
 
posted by [identity profile] askye.livejournal.com at 06:48pm on 14/06/2008
That's why I wanted him to be a serious contender. There are so many issues effecting everyone and I could see it coming. I mean, I'm not a great predictor of anything really but I knew the housing market was going to crash and of course gas keeps going up.

I feel so bad for the people who are caught, those that live in areas without good options for public transportation, who are dealing with rising fuel costs, which means it's more expensive to heat and cool houses and to put food on the table. The current administration is just..beyond inept. It's insane.

Of course consumerism drives our society, I spend more than I should and could cut back on things but I'm very lucky and I know it. I know that plenty of people are stuck in "full time" jobs where they are only scheduled 38 hours a week because benefits kick in if they are scheduled 40 hours. I know that there are people who are working and don't have any kind of decent insurance.

..okay rant over.
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posted by [personal profile] minim_calibre at 06:13pm on 14/06/2008
Even in the secular states, there are a LOT of people who feel that way about her, or a similar way.
 
posted by [identity profile] riani1.livejournal.com at 10:21pm on 14/06/2008
The hatred of politicians named Clinton is terrifying. I honestly believe that if she'd gotten the nomination, much less the presidency, there would have been people with guns hunting for her. The hatred is not rational.
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posted by [identity profile] hummingwolf.livejournal.com at 01:51pm on 16/06/2008
On an entirely different note: Have a beautiful Birthday!

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